This ranking is to fill the void left by the Portsmouth Daily Times, and will include all SOC teams and the SEOAL SOUTH.
[b:22y1oacj]1. Wheelersburg (7-0) last week #1[/b:22y1oacj]- The Burg remains in the top spot this week after a quality 14-7 victory over a previously undefeated Minford team. With this win the Pirates move to # 1 in region 19 computer poll and put themselves in good position for another SOC title. The Pirates will not face much of a challenge this week as they play host to the Northwest Mohawks. In week 9 the Pirates will travel to Waverly before heading to West Portsmouth in week 10 for what is shaping up to be the SOC 2 title game.
[b:22y1oacj]2. West (7-0) last week #2 –[/b:22y1oacj] The Senators continued their run through southern Ohio this week as they defeated Waverly 49-0. West has performed well all year, scoring at will and playing great defense, but they have yet to beat an opponent with a winning record. All that will change this week as they will play host to a quality Minford team. If the Senators want an outright SOC title or a shot at home field advantage in the playoffs this is a game that they need to win.
[b:22y1oacj]3. Chillicothe(5-2) last week # 3- [/b:22y1oacj] The Cavilers rolled over a 4-3 Gallia Academy team 41- 0. Right now the Cavs are playing better then anybody on the list and sit 5th in division 3 region 12. If the Cavs can win out they will secure a home playoff game and an SEOAL title. It won’t be easy for the Cavs though as they travel to 5-2 Division 2 Jackson in week 8, play host to Warren in week 9, before what should be the league title game week ten with undefeated and reigning SEOAL champion Logan.
[b:22y1oacj]4. Ironton (4-3) last week # 5[/b:22y1oacj]- The Fighting Tigers were able to take out some frustration for two road losses in previous weeks, this week as they returned home to defeat 5-2 Jackson 54-6. Even at 4-3 Ironton sits at # 3 in region 15 which is a testament to the schedule that they play. The Fighting Tigers will not have a chance at many computer points this week as they travel to Portsmouth to take on the 1-6 Trojans in the 2nd longest continuous running rivalry in the state with the first game being play in 1903. This will be the 115th meeting between the two programs and the difference in records will not detract from the emotions that each team brings into this game.
[b:22y1oacj]5. Minford (5-1) last week #4-[/b:22y1oacj] The Falcons dropped a spot this week after suffering a 14-7 defeat at the hands of the Wheelersburg Pirates. This week was a big blow to Minford’s chances to win an SOC title, but they are not dead yet. This week they will play host to the Senators of West Portsmouth, in what should be another great game. The Falcons won’t have to win this game to make the playoffs but if they want a home game, and to have any chance a conference title it is a must win. Should make for a big week in Minford.
[b:22y1oacj]6. Gallia Academy (4-3) last week # 6-[/b:22y1oacj] The Blue Devils get to hang onto the # 6 spot this week with a little luck, because other teams didn’t fair much better. Gallia Academy was beaten 41-0 by a Chillicothe team that is clicking on all cylinders at just the right time. Even with the loss the Blue Devils were able to hang onto the # 7 spot in region 15, and with their best remaining opponent being a 2-5 Zanesville team ( which is a very good 2-5) they look to have a shot at still sneaking into the playoffs.
[b:22y1oacj]7. East (6-1) last week # 8-[/b:22y1oacj] The Tartans move up another spot this week after defeating Symmes Valley 32-8. The Tartans should be on cruise control for the next two weeks before a week 10 rivalry game with Notre Dame. Are there bigger schools on this list that are ranked below East that would beat them if they played? I think so, but I can’t fault the Tartans for beating what is put in front of them each week.
[b:22y1oacj]8. Jackson (5-2) last week # 7-[/b:22y1oacj] The Ironmen will have to lick their wounds this week as they recover form a 54-6 defeat at the hands of Ironton. With a 5-2 record Jackson drops to # 11 in region 8, and loses any realistic chance at an SEOAL title. The Ironmen could still make the playoffs and play spoiler as they play host to Chillicothe and Logan in the next 2 weeks, but I can see a scenerio in which they lose out.
[b:22y1oacj]9. Waverly(3-4) last week # 9 [/b:22y1oacj]– The Tigers lost 49-0 this week as their high powered offense was shut out for the first time this season. Waverly has dropped 3 games in a row to 3 good teams and will have to beat the Burg and probably get some help to make the playoffs as they currently set at 15 in region 15. This week the Tigers travel to Lucasville to take on the Indians.
[b:22y1oacj]10. Portsmouth (1-6) last week # 10 [/b:22y1oacj]The Trojans lost another close game this week as they were defeated by the Warren Warriors 9-7. Portsmouth’s defense put up another strong showing Friday night in Vincent but questionable calls, lack of offense, and special teams’ mistakes were too much for the Trojans to overcome. This week the Trojans will face their arch rival in the Ironton Fighting Tigers, this is one of the most storied and heated rivalries in the entire state. Hopefully the Trojans will be inspired by all the history that these two teams have shared at Spartan Stadium, and allow for the Trojans to summon up a little extra this week. PHS leads the series 56-51-7.
[b:22y1oacj]11. Valley (4-3) last week #11[/b:22y1oacj]- This week the Indians defeated Northwest 47-7. Although the Indians have a winning record they stay at # 11 because the teams they beat have a combined record of 5-23. Valley can still prove themselves, and make it into the playoffs with games against Waverly, West and Minford in the coming weeks, but I suspect the Indians have had their last victory of the season.
[b:22y1oacj]12. Oak Hill (4-3) Last week # 13[/b:22y1oacj]- The Oaks returned to the win column this week as they defeated Notre Dame 34-2. If the Oaks can run the table and someone can upset East they still have a shot at a shared SOC1 title, but without a lot of help I’m afraid the playoffs may be out of reach this season.
[b:22y1oacj]13. Norte Dame (4-3) last week #12 [/b:22y1oacj]– The Titans fall a spot this week after losing to Oak Hill. They should be able to pick up a victory this week as Green comes to Portsmouth. If the Titans win out they could still make the playoffs, it’s possible for them to sneak in at 6-4.
[b:22y1oacj]14. Symmes Valley (4-3) last week # 14[/b:22y1oacj]- This week the Vikings lost to East 32-8. Symmes Valley currently sits at # 12 in region 24, but could make the playoffs it they win out. This week will be their biggest remaining point game as they host Oak Hill.
[b:22y1oacj]15. Green (2-4) last week #15[/b:22y1oacj]- The Bobcats lost a close game to South Gallia 12-8 this past week. That may have been their last chance at a win this season.
[b:22y1oacj]16. Northwest (1-6) last week #16-[/b:22y1oacj] The Mohawks continue to serve as the SOC whipping boy this time in a lopsided loss to Valley. Looks like they will end up 1-19 for the last 2 years.
[quote:9xcqwtdm]This ranking is to fill the void left by the Portsmouth Daily Times, and will include all SOC teams and the SEOAL SOUTH.[/quote:9xcqwtdm]If your life is affected THAT much by not seeing one person’s opinion in a publication, then I feel bad for what your life must be like.
No major complaints about your rankings though. Pretty much down the standings with SOC I in the back. I do think Symmes Valley is the second best team in the conference behind East with Oak Hill in a close 3rd.
Waverly would definitely be behind Portsmouth and Valley with their performances the last two week. I know the competition has been tough, but…well I won’t bash the kids but it’s been disappointing. Hopefully they bounce back and we’ll see if they prove me wrong against the Indians this week.
[quote="The_X_Factor":2ckhjtby]If your life is affected THAT much by not seeing one person’s opinion in a publication, then I feel bad for what your life must be like.
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My life isn’t affected by it. I started doing this ranking week one after they PDT didn’t run what had become a staple of the sports page for the last few years. Now I just use that as a shot a the Daily Times for the poor job that they have done covering local sports.
[quote="gunit":2ckhjtby]Will Portmouth finally drop some spots after they end up with the same record as the Mohawks after week 10…
Good Rankings except for Portsmouth… I don’t think they would win a game in the SOC II except for Northwest[/quote:2ckhjtby]
Do you honestly believe that any of the teams below the Trojans could beat them if they played? Since they do not I have no way of comparing them other then by like opponents.
Example Valley- lost to South Point 28-7
The Trojans beat South Point 28-15
Valley lost to Burg 34-3
The Trojans lost to Burg 28-6
PHS doesn’t share any opponents with the remaining teams below them other then Northwest. I can’t see any of the teams listed below the Trojans being able to win one game against the schedule that they have played. The Trojans have also had 3 games that they have lost by a total of 10 points. those games being 20-21 loss to #8 on the list Jackson, a 7-0 loss to the #6 team Gallia Academy, and a 9-7 loss to a 4-3 division three team in Warren. PHS has only played one team to date with a losing record.
My point is if the Trojans played a schedule similar to Valley or even Minford they would most likely fair no worse then 6-4.
You might be right but there is no way of knowing… You can’t compare scores for other teams… I read a thread after the Burg/Valley game that said Valley shot themselves in the foot numerous time…maybe Ptown should play an easier schedule or try to get into the SOCII:lol: it’s a good thing college football doesn’t do a poll like this or Marshall would be a top 10 team
[quote="gunit":1eumedu7]You might be right but there is no way of knowing… You can’t compare scores for other teams… I read a thread after the Burg/Valley game that said Valley shot themselves in the foot numerous time…maybe Ptown should play an easier schedule or try to get into the SOCII:lol: it’s a good thing college football doesn’t do a poll like this or Marshall would be a top 10 team [/quote:1eumedu7]
Comparing scores from others teams is the only way that the teams can be compared because PHS has been told many times they are not welcome in the SOC, which has forced the Trojans to find bigger and better opponents that will play them. I can’t fault the SOC for not wanting to play the Trojans for championships (except for Burg and West who always play PHS. Here are the results vs. the SOC since 2000.
2000 3-0 vs. Burg Waverly and Minford result PHS championship
2001 4-0 Vs Burg Minford West and Waverly result PHS championship
2002 3-0 Vs Burg Minford and West- result PHS championship
2003 2-1 vs. Minford West and Burg. PHS lost to Burg but Minford beat Burg- result PHS co-Champs
2004 2-1 vs. Burg Minford and West- Result Burg championship
20051-2 vs. Burg Minford and West- Result Burg championship
2006-0-2 vs. Burg and West Result Waverly Champs
2007 2-0 vs. Burg and West- Result PHS champs
PHS would have won 5 of the last 8 SOC titles and have a record of 17-6. I can’t fault them for not wanting a team that would win 62% of the football Championships. It’s rare when anyone other then the Burg wins one now. It is for these reasons PHS plays in the SEOAL and against quality d-3 and d-2 opponents, even though they are bordering on d-5.
Just as I didn’t fault East or West for playing against weak schedules, I refuse to fault PHS for playing with the big dogs.
Trojan_FB_Alum - The SOC schools won’t vote Portsmouth in the league because Portsmouth is too rough…these schools are just trying to protect their own kids from any harm…it has nothing to do with SOC schools not wanting to play the Trojans for championships!! LOL
I agree about Portsmouth’s tough schedule. They need to get out of that league and I wish they would let them in the SOC II and put Northwest in the SOC I.
Portsmouth would have a good record if they played half the schedules around here. Wins and even secondary points are not always a determining factor on whether a team is good. Look at teams around here with more wins than Portsmouth: Valley, Oak Hill, or even an East. Portsmouth would win handily.
[quote="Karma":22mj4zxg]Trojan_FB_Alum - The SOC schools won’t vote Portsmouth in the league because Portsmouth is too rough…these schools are just trying to protect their own kids from any harm…it has nothing to do with SOC schools not wanting to play the Trojans for championships!! LOL ;)[/quote:22mj4zxg]
Now that’s funny I doubt they fear the Trojans will cause bodily harm to them, they just don’t want another dominate team to compete with. They have shown that they don’t mind to play PHS, because it is always a big gate for them, but they don’t want to risk a SOC title for a few extra dollars.
[quote="siderman":22mj4zxg]I agree about Portsmouth’s tough schedule. They need to get out of that league and I wish they would let them in the SOC II and put Northwest in the SOC I.
Portsmouth would have a good record if they played half the schedules around here. Wins and even secondary points are not always a determining factor on whether a team is good. Look at teams around here with more wins than Portsmouth: Valley, Oak Hill, or even an East. Portsmouth would win handily.[/quote:22mj4zxg]
Personally I’m glad PHS is in the SEOAL. This is a down year, but we have competed in most of our games. Next year look for the Trojans to be back towards the top of the list.
[quote="siderman":sdxzpxst]I agree about Portsmouth’s tough schedule. They need to get out of that league and I wish they would let them in the SOC II and put Northwest in the SOC I.
Portsmouth would have a good record if they played half the schedules around here. Wins and even secondary points are not always a determining factor on whether a team is good. Look at teams around here with more wins than Portsmouth: Valley, Oak Hill, or even an East. Portsmouth would win handily.[/quote:sdxzpxst]
Why all of a sudden do we want to let Portsmouth play a schedule weaker than their enrollment! So they can look good! Pick on the smaller schools and wine about if we had this schedule or that schedule we would be great! Alot, of smaller schools play schedules that are bigger division they they are! They have nowhere to look for games but up divisions! They dont have the priveledge of playing smaller division schools like you are saying! So dry it up! Play your schedule! And save the drama for your momma! You wanted in and your in; take your but whippins in the tools shed and try harder next season! Man I’m sick of the cry-baby-lou’s and always dumping on the smaller schools! Kick but in your divisions and your conference and leave the others alone! Becoming a team of "What if’s" or "If we played"!
[quote="Axe N Shield":ejy2pytm]
Why all of a sudden do we want to let Portsmouth play a schedule weaker than their enrollment! So they can look good! Pick on the smaller schools and wine about if we had this schedule or that schedule we would be great! Alot, of smaller schools play schedules that are bigger division they they are! They have nowhere to look for games but up divisions! They dont have the priveledge of playing smaller division schools like you are saying! So dry it up! Play your schedule! And save the drama for your momma! You wanted in and your in; take your but whippins in the tools shed and try harder next season! Man I’m sick of the cry-baby-lou’s and always dumping on the smaller schools! Kick but in your divisions and your conference and leave the others alone! Becoming a team of "What if’s" or "If we played"![/quote:ejy2pytm]
How would PHS be playing a weaker schedule then their enrollment if they played an SOC 2 type schedules?
The average enrollment in SOC2 is 202. PHS has an enrollment of 195. With 195 boys it seems like the Trojans would be playing right in line with their enrolment. This is in contras to the SEOAL where the average enrollment excluding PHS is 353(and 373 without Ironton) as I said in a previous post it has been clear that we are not welcome in the SOC and most likely never will be. I’m very happy with the SEOAL and competing at a higher level of competition each week. This has been a down year for the Trojans but they will be back. What I have stated is that PHS hasn’t gone down the list because they have lost games against quality opponents that are bigger schools. I would like to see how some of the other teams on the list would do if they had to go and play schools nearly twice their size on a regular basis.
What is sad is that people want to get on here and bash PHS for getting into a league with larger school in which each victory will be a hard fought battle, because of the size differential of the schools, yet they do not want the Trojans in the local league with schools of comparable size. The Trojans have been competitive in the SEOAL even though their record does not show it this year. PHS in the SEOAL is like taking one of the SOC 1 schools and having them play in SOC 2 with school twice their size or bigger. I don’t believe they would fair very well. Do you?
[quote="siderman":28fh5y8v]I agree about Portsmouth’s tough schedule. They need to get out of that league and I wish they would let them in the SOC II and put Northwest in the SOC I.
Portsmouth would have a good record if they played half the schedules around here. Wins and even secondary points are not always a determining factor on whether a team is good. Look at teams around here with more wins than Portsmouth: Valley, Oak Hill, or even an East. Portsmouth would win handily.[/quote:28fh5y8v]
Handily? I dont know about that..
Valley led Portsmouth 14-12 with 1:30 to go in the half in their "preview" the week before the season and the Indians fumbled running the clock out..PHS busted off a TD and was leading at the "half" 18-14. biggdowgg said the Indians more than held their own against the Trojans and this Valley team only has 5 seniors. Now, of course year in and year out Portsmouth is usually better that Valley and I wont say they arent…but this Portsmouth team is just young and down.
At any rate…they are his rankings, and if Portsmouth is at #1…well then they’re #1.
PERSONALLY I’D FLOP FIRST AND SECOND. CHILLICOTHE HAS A GREAT BALL TEAM, BUT FRANKLY IRONTON FUMBLED THAT BALL GAME AWAY.
I WISH WE COULD DO A DO OVER WITH WHELERSBURG, AND CHILLI, I DON’T THINK EITHER COULD BEAT US AGAIN, NUETRAL FIELD. LOGAN WAS JUST BETTER THAN US, IT PAINS ME TO SAY. BUT THEY WERE. JMHO.
